Mystery Skyline Angle IV

March 11th, 2009
This is probably the most obscure angle I know of. You can walk about 15 feet east or west and it vanishes. Mystery Raleigh Skyline Angle

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  1. becky says:

    April 17th, 2009 at 10:49 am (#)

    King of Raleigh is back!!! You have my vote king!!!

  2. Anonymous says:

    April 17th, 2009 at 2:39 pm (#)

    Another possible transportation hub :could: be by RBC Center/Carter Finley Stadium/NCSU area…

  3. Anonymous says:

    April 17th, 2009 at 2:41 pm (#)

    Also, I’m quite excited about the possibilities of One Glenwood 😀

  4. Ernest says:

    April 17th, 2009 at 3:49 pm (#)

    All right, Anonymous… I see we are getting enthusiastic over One Glenwood 🙂 Indeed, it is a magnificent vision and possibly a new tallest for Raleigh. Hopefully, more such towers will arrive, although it is a smaller version of the NY Times building, much like 333 Corporate Plaza and One Progress Plaza, which have bigger brothers in NYC.

    Horatio, well said!!! There is an online video where this guy from California speaks about his friends back home, who wish to move to Raleigh even without having securing work. It is crazy, but it is true.

  5. keddrick clark says:

    April 17th, 2009 at 11:51 pm (#)

    Yes Ernest..I am Independent.. BECKY!! How are you!?? I am shocked that you remember who I am!! I will be at Ft. Bragg in November, thats when I leave KOREA!! Im gonna be in Raleigh EVERY chance I can, like every weekend! OH, A city DAEGU, SOUTH KOREA has an area called Centro Palace.. like the proposed 4 tower Edison plan back home in Raleigh.

  6. Ernest says:

    April 18th, 2009 at 12:19 pm (#)

    keddrick, just for serving our country, you deserve my vote 😉 Only a person with military discipline can stop the NIMBYs 😆 BTW, isn’t Centro Palace a 7-tower project? In terms of floor height, the tallest one reaches 43 floors and the shortest around 20, right?

  7. JRD says:

    April 19th, 2009 at 11:45 pm (#)

    What is one glenwood?

  8. Ernest says:

    April 21st, 2009 at 12:21 am (#)

    The high-rise envisioned/planned for the Eastern half of the block bounded by Hillsborough St, Glenwood Ave, Morgan Str and Boylan Ave. Solid developers, with good backing, but VERY low profile. Renderings were leaked by accident, but the architect pulled them out fast. Not a pie in the sky, for those who love to get depressed through negative thinking. From an architectural standpoint, think of NY Times Bldg, in NYC 😉

  9. JRD says:

    April 21st, 2009 at 6:01 pm (#)

    How tall? When does it start?

  10. Ernest says:

    April 22nd, 2009 at 8:49 am (#)

    It started as a small mid-rise, went up to 20 floors, moved the 20-30 floor count and as it stands now it is most likely going to be the new tallest for Raleigh 😉 Not by a large margin, but it should easily be the new tallest. Can’t say more for now, but regarding the official groundbreaking we are not exactly close… Not while the economy is in this shape. However, the developers have altered the original idea significantly, going from strictly residential to mixed-use – think of RBC Plaza, with more retail. The “when” is a question that nobody can answer. They have been on the designing phase for a while, but such a project is large for any city, let alone Raleigh. I do not expect to hear anything for another year, though.

  11. Lee L says:

    April 22nd, 2009 at 10:57 am (#)

    Well, even if it is about the same size as RBC height wise, that will still be a good thing as we need more bulk in the skyline, especially away from the Fayetteville St corridor. Sure, a 60 story tower might be nice, but a bunch or 30-40 signifies a healthier downtown and will lead to more true density and critical mass of people. IMO.

  12. Ernest says:

    April 22nd, 2009 at 3:37 pm (#)

    I couldn’t agree more. If we had corporations that (a) desire a strong image, and (b) have deep pockets, then we could “demand” the 60-story towers, but at the current state of things we should be – IMHO – more eager to see successful projects coming to fruition rather that image-building visions that fail at most other levels.

    As for One Glenwood – assuming it gets built in its most recent incarnation – it will definitely be taller than RBC Plaza, and possibly The Edison. While I would LOVE to see a taller skyscraper, the location may not be the best for the image building most of us care about. There are a few locations that a signature tower above 700ft would probably work better for our skyline, but we have already talked about it and I would hate to bore you even more 😆 I need to point out, however, that One Glenwood will not be visible by most angles. It will definitely be visible from the Duke Hospital parking deck, in North Raleigh, though.

  13. JRD says:

    April 22nd, 2009 at 4:37 pm (#)

    I think everyone is missing the point. If a new tallest were built away from the usual fayetteville st. area, others will follow suit and want to build more in that area, and even in between someday. When developers see that building there, they might see major opportunity being missed in the warehouse didstrict and start building highrises there (which would be more likely if the “good CAM plans” came to fruition). Which I totally hope happens.
    Not that I care what other cities think, I just think they’d laugh to see us “preserving the historic WAREHOUSE DISTRICT”.

  14. Ernest says:

    April 23rd, 2009 at 1:41 am (#)

    JRD, I am with you, and I do agree that most of what is considered downtown is fair game. In fact, what I am saying – although not very clearly – is that a new tallest in the West end of downtown would probably hurt someone’s pride enough to built a 700ft+ tower closer to the main portion of our skyline. I have never been a big fan of the “everything tall should be along Fayetteville Str” mentality. I think there is a lot of potential along Salisbury, McDowell and Dawson streets, and we MUST explore that territory. Please, no more Hues 🙁 I have no problem with the building itself, but such a great parcel was wasted on something short.

    The Warehouse District is a revitalization effort similar to other cities, especially big cities. Do some of you remember Long Island City before the Silvercup Studios were opened? The similar, but in smaller scale can happen here. The good news is that we can preserve some of the older warehouses, while redeveloping a few of the unutilized parcels. A combination of new and old buildings will not hurt. Something like Pearl District in Portland.

  15. JRD says:

    April 23rd, 2009 at 5:35 pm (#)

    I agree about the Hue. I just think that if a seriouse developer wants to build something, I dont see the point in standing in the way to save an old warehouse. Sooner or later the warehouses will go down for bigger and better things. I just dont see the point in standing in the way of progress.

  16. Nick says:

    April 24th, 2009 at 12:38 pm (#)

    But standing in the way of progress is what we do so well at in Raleigh.

  17. Ernest says:

    April 25th, 2009 at 12:28 am (#)

    I can’t say that Raleigh does great only when it comes to stopping progress. We may see slow improvements, but there are lots of cities that remain stagnant, overall. I think that we expect too much from our city, but I will agree that we need leadership with guts and vision. Currently, most of our leaders are listening too much to their big contributors. Instead, they should be listening to the majority or the Raleighites. Let’s be fair, though, the economic climate doesn’t favor fast growth right now. When the finance sectors stabilizes, a lot of the stalled visions will materialize and many of our perceptions will change.

  18. Matt K. says:

    April 26th, 2009 at 4:53 pm (#)

    I can’t wait for the economy to get moving again. Not to be impatient, but I’m ready to see some new projects start happening… lol

    I wasn’t aware of the rail link proposal – if Raleigh does indeed become the convergence point for the Miami and Atlanta corridors, that would indeed require a better train hub than what we have now. Hopefully it will get done right.

    I took advantage of the great weather last night and spent some time walking around Glenwood South – wow, what a great evening experience. I saw a lot more walking around on foot than I’ve ever noticed in the car. It’s something I definitely plan to do more.

    It appears I am behind on development news, I need to do some net surfing and catch up. Ernest, I stopped by a couple of weeks ago and you were off – I will try to catch up with you sometime soon!

  19. Ernest says:

    April 27th, 2009 at 10:13 pm (#)

    Matt K., I am there on Wed, Thu and alternate between Fri and Sat with the other person – this week I will be there on Sat. You are right about Glenwood South, it feels very different by foot. A few spots here and there need new venues, but still it is a pleasant experience. Considering that people try to save on entertainment expenses, too, Glenwood South is still strong.

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